Forum Support scott h Posted July 5, 2021 Forum Support Posted July 5, 2021 It is always easy to blame someone else isnt it? I will bet the bank this was due to pilot error, (as are most air tragedies) or poor maintenance. Then to say something like this? When in fact the c-130 is still the combat work horse of the US military in tactical situations... Politicians of any country need to educate themselves before shooting off their mouths. Sen. Imee Marcos said the tragedy was “truly heart-rending and leaves a huge void in our collective consciousness as a nation.” “Our unsung heroes spent their everyday saving lives, rescuing the injured, helping entire communities survive with food packs and medical supplies. But we couldn’t save them when they needed help. Stop buying flying coffins! No more soldiers’ widows and orphans!” she said. I guess it is easier to blame the big bad west than to admit the government is lead by buffoons' ‘C-130 in tip-top shape’ | Philstar.com 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, scott h said: Stop buying flying coffins! Spoken like a mother, but she conveniently forgets all the coffins that were bought during her father's era. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Forum Support Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Dave Hounddriver said: Spoken like a mother, but she conveniently forgets all the coffins that were bought during her father's era. And shoes. Edited July 5, 2021 by Old55 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham59 Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 Coffins ? Surely one of the safest aircraft on the planet _ Perhaps maintain them properly, and train people properly to fly them ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Mike J Posted July 6, 2021 Forum Support Posted July 6, 2021 The black box has been recovered. The article says the plane touched down on the runway three times and "bounced back" prior to the crash. Sounding more and more like pilot error, even though the pilot is said to have 3000 hours of C-130 flight time. https://businessmirror.com.ph/2021/07/06/probers-retrieve-flight-data-recorder-from-crashed-c-130-military-plane/ The “black box,” or flight data recorder, of the ill-fated C-130 plane that crashed in Patikul, Sulu, last Sunday noon has been recovered, the chief of staff of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) disclosed on Tuesday. The retrieval of the black box, according to AFP Chief Gen. Cirilito Sobejana would provide probers essentials clues to the crash, dubbed as one of the worst military accident on record that left 53 people, 49 of them soldiers, dead. ADVERTISEMENT “The block box that was recovered is very important because we could listen to whatever conversation between the pilot and the aircrew of the aircraft,” Sobejana said in a broadcast interview. The box, he added, has been turned over to investigators for examination, even as interviews of witnesses on the ground are being conducted. The military had earlier vowed to undertake a transparent probe into the crash. The box, he added, has been turned over to investigators for examination along with interviews of witnesses for the investigation. The military has vowed to undertake a transparent probe of the incident. Without precluding the results of the probe, Sobejana said in a separate broadcast interview that the C-130 plane touched the runway in Patikul, Sulu, three times as it attempted to land. He said the plane bounced back thrice, and as the pilot attempted to regain control or power over the plane, it crashed and burst into flame, thus burning most of the fatalities. While 49 soldiers and three civilians were killed immediately after the crash, 47 other soldiers survived. The soldiers aboard the ill-fated aircraft were on their way to Sulu for their first deployment. President Duterte flew to Zamboanga City on Monday to personally check on the victims of the crash, where according to Sobejana, the Commander in Chief “bestowed” military awards to both the dead and injured soldiers. “It was a very emotional activity. The President was really saddened of what had happened,” he told in an interview with CNN Philippines’s Pinky Webb. “The President’s instruction was very clear that our air assets and other military equipment should be in good shape all the time.” Since the fatalities were charred beyond recognition, the top military chief admitted that it may be a little bit hard to properly identify all the remains, but vowed military would do everything to ascertain the identities of the deceased before they would be turned over to their families. This is the reason why the names of those killed have not been disclosed yet, although Sobejana had identified the pilot as Major Emmanuel Makalintal, who had 3,000 hours in flying a C-130. Sobejana said that they were hoping to completely identify the remains not only through DNA, but with the dental records of the victims, since most of them are fresh graduates from military training. Some of the soldiers, he said are also Tausug who are raring to go back to their province and help in the counterterrorism campaign of the government. Sobejana is hoping that the United States will also help in the investigation since the C-130 was acquired by the military from the US. The C-130 was delivered to the military on January 29 this year, although it has been used for 20 years before its transfer. The military, however, assured that the ill-fated aircraft was on tip top shape and properly maintained with 11,000 flying hours before any maintenance requirement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey G Posted July 7, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 7, 2021 40+ years in Naval aviation... one thing held true through dozens of accidents... First reports are always wrong. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 15 hours ago, Joey G said: 40+ years in Naval aviation... one thing held true through dozens of accidents... First reports are always wrong. I didn't know you were an airdale, brown shoe navy. You got some big gonads working in a toxic working environment (AVGAS, bombs, missiles) on any flight deck. Bravo Zulu Joey! I saw video of guys jumping out before impact. Did any of those young soldiers survive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey G Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Jake said: I saw video of guys jumping out before impact. Did any of those young soldiers survive? Haven't seen that video... but from the looks of the wreck, it looks like as good idea as any. First WESTPAC on USS Tarawa (LHA-1) in 79'... ship was new, but in repair at Subic more than it should have... probably why I got married LOL 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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