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5 hours ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

Why are they destroying them? I see places that sell pallet loads of returns or damaged goods from Amazon and can be bought cheaply. Ofcourse you dont know whats in each pallet load.

 

Apparently, they are destroying 130,00 perfectly usable items every week - it was the subject of a UK documentary a few weeks ago, prompting our PM Boris to promise to look into it.

As to why?  Cheaper to dump than sift threw and sort out what's working and what's not and in some cases they stuff may belong to their suppliers.  I guess it's a drop in the ocean to them.

[OnMyWay]

On 7/8/2021 at 9:53 AM, Jollygoodfellow said:

Why are they destroying them? I see places that sell pallet loads of returns or damaged goods from Amazon and can be bought cheaply. Ofcourse you dont know whats in each pallet load.

 

Apparently, this is a UK / Europe Amazon thing, as of now.  The "why" is in this article, but is open to interpretation, in my mind.

Why are hundreds of thousands of products being destroyed in this way? The answer is Amazon’s hugely successful business model. Many vendors choose to house their products in Amazon’s vast warehouses.
But the longer the goods remain unsold, the more a company is charged to store them. It is eventually cheaper to dispose of the goods, especially stock from overseas, than to continue storing the stock.

I interpret that last part as, or add to it:  When a reseller who stores products at Amazon owes storage that is more than the worth of the products, the products are destroyed.

Still stupid.

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-21/amazon-destroying-millions-of-items-of-unsold-stock-in-one-of-its-uk-warehouses-every-year-itv-news-investigation-finds

Online giant Amazon is destroying millions of items of unsold stock every year, products that are often new and unused, ITV News can reveal.

Footage gathered by ITV News shows waste on an astonishing level.

And this is from just one of 24 fulfilment centres they currently operate in the UK.

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Watch footage showing the 'destruction zone' in Amazon's Dunfermline warehouse where millions of unsold items are destroyed every year

 

 

 

 

Undercover filming from inside Amazon's Dunfermline warehouse reveals the sheer scale of the waste: Smart TVs, laptops, drones, hairdryers, top of the range headphones, computer drives, books galore, thousands of sealed face masks – all sorted into boxes marked “destroy”.

 

The Amazon Dunfermline warehouseCredit: ITV News

Products that were never sold, or returned by a customer. Almost all could have been redistributed to charities or those in need. Instead, they are thrown into vast bins, carried away by lorries (which we tracked), and dumped at either recycling centres or, worse, a landfill site.

Amazon told ITV News that the landfill site also has a recycling centre and that none of their items go to landfill in the UK. 

 

ITV News cameras film pallets piled with unwanted goods being unloaded at a waste recycling site near to Amazon's Dunfermline warehouse.Credit: ITV News

An ex-employee, who asked for anonymity, told us: "From a Friday to a Friday our target was to generally destroy 130,000 items a week."I used to gasp. There's no rhyme or reason to what gets destroyed: Dyson fans, Hoovers, the occasional MacBook and iPad; the other day, 20,000 Covid (face) masks still in their wrappers.

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ITV News Correspondent Richard Pallot on why these items are being thrown away

 

 

 

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"Overall, 50 percent of all items are unopened and still in their shrink wrap. The other half are returns and in good condition. Staff have just become numb to what they are being asked to do.”

In one week in April, a leaked document from inside the Dunfermline warehouse showed more than 124,000 items marked 'destroy'. To repeat, that's just for seven days. In contrast, just 28,000 items in the same period were labelled 'donate'.The same manager admitted to us that in some weeks, as many as 200,000 items could be marked 'destroy'.

 

In one week in April, a leaked document from inside the Dunfermline warehouse had more than 124,000 items marked out for destroy.Credit: ITV News

Why are hundreds of thousands of products being destroyed in this way? The answer is Amazon’s hugely successful business model. Many vendors choose to house their products in Amazon’s vast warehouses.But the longer the goods remain unsold, the more a company is charged to store them. It is eventually cheaper to dispose of the goods, especially stock from overseas, than to continue storing the stock.

Greenpeace's Sam Chetan Welsh told us: “It's an unimaginable amount of unnecessary waste, and just shocking to see a multi-billion pound company getting rid of stock in this way.

 

Stock earmarked to be destroyed.Credit: ITV News

"Stuff that’s not even single use but not being used at all, straight off the production line and into the bin. As long as Amazon’s business model relies on this kind of disposal culture, things are only going to get worse. The government must step in and bring in legislation immediately.”In an interview before he knew about our investigation, Amazon’s UK boss John Boumphrey told ITV News the amount the company destroys is “extremely small.”

 

Undercover filming from inside the Dunfermline warehouse's 'destruction zone'.Credit: ITV News

What Amazon is doing is not illegal. In a response to the findings of our investigation, the company said: “We are working towards a goal of zero product disposal and our priority is to resell, donate to charitable organisations or recycle any unsold products. No items are sent to landfill in the UK. As a last resort, we will send items to energy recovery, but we're working hard to drive the number of times this happens down to zero.”

 

Many of the items being thrown away were still in their packaging.Credit: ITV News

Go forty miles southwest from Dunfermline and you’ll arrive in Glasgow, where the UK will host the world’s biggest ever climate conference in November. And yet, just up the road, Amazon is producing huge amounts of environmental waste. 

Leaders could do worse than begin by telling the world’s biggest online retailer to set an example.

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What has the response been to ITV News' investigation?

The Business Secretary has spoken to Amazon about ITV News' exclusive investigation, the prime minister's spokesperson has said.

When asked if the UK was considering changing regulations to stop actions like those of Amazon, the spokesperson said: "We are looking at the regulations to see how we can increase reusing and recycling for things like electrical goods."

Boris Johnson has said the investigation "sounds incredible" to him, before adding: "an indictment of a consumerist society, if it's as you say, we will look into it".

He said: "Obviously we don't like stuff going to landfill under any circumstances that's why we have the landfill tax and landfill credit scheme, and everything else."

 

 

 

The prime minister said: "I'm afraid it's one of those things we're just going to have to look into and get back to you."

"We want to see more reuse, we want to see more recycling but above all we want to stop people using things that are going to be, ultimately, polluting our seas, our world and that means cutting down our use of plastics - you name it," he added.

Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng told ITV News he was "very surprised" about the findings of our investigation and said he wanted "to get to the bottom of what is actually happening".

"I know that Amazon is committed to net zero, they’ve committed huge amounts of investment to the rainforest, to keeping the rainforest going and I’m surprised," Mr Kwarteng said.

"I haven’t read the report so I need to look at the report to see what my response is. But I think Amazon should do the right thing and it would be very disappointing if this is true."

Edited July 9, 2021 by OnMyWay

[Jollygoodfellow]

On 7/9/2021 at 6:56 PM, OnMyWay said:

Almost all could have been redistributed to charities

I guess its like this, if they gave a lot of stuff away sales will drop as no one would need to buy a higher priced item