Gandang Smile Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 This is huge, When are the Philippines going to follow suit? (from https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/indonesia-regulator-allows-ivermectin-use-covid-treatment) Indonesia Regulator Allows Ivermectin Use For Covid Treatment Merely mentioning the name of the vaccine-busting drug Ivermectin in the US is enough to get you carted off for "questioning" to the nearest illegal CIA blacksite, have the NSA leak all your private information to MSNBC, WaPo and the NYT and quietly shipped off to Guantanamo for permanent re-education under the daily auspices of Critical Race Theory. But not in the "banana republic" of Indonesia, where on Thursday, Ivermectin was officially approved for covid treatment in a vicious blow to the "buy my vaccine" pharmaceutical lobby around the world. According to Bloomberg, Indonesia’s food and drug regulator, known as BPOM, has issued a letter approving the distribution of Ivermectin, Remdesivir, Favipiravir, Oseltamivir, immunoglobulin, Tocilizumab, Azithromycin and Dexametason to be used in treatment of Covid-19, according to a statement from the agency. The latter, Bloomberg adds, was issued as guidance for distributors of the drugs. The startling development - if only to the anti-Ivermectin oligarchs in "developed" Western nations - takes place two weeks after eight hospitals in Indonesia began conducting clinical trials on Ivermectin, an anti-parasitic medicine that has appeared to be a potential Covid-19 medication and which is greatly hated by the establishment due to its low price and its ability to eradicate the covid plague which the establishment desperately needs to perpetuate a state of constant near-panic not to mention enabling trillions in fiscal and monetary stimulus, following a permit issued by the national agency of drug and food control. BPOM's head Penny K. Lukito said at a press conference on Monday (June 28) that global data and guidelines from the World Health Organization (WHO) show that Ivermectin, previously used for deworming, can also be used for Covid-19 treatment. However, while the BOMP said on June 28 that data are still being collected and the results are not conclusive, it appears that two weeks later it has found enough conclusive data to formally approve Ivermectin for covid treatment. Indonesia is scrambling to contain the covid pandemic, having overnight surpassed India’s daily Covid-19 case numbers, and becoming Asia's new virus epicenter as the spread of the highly-contagious delta variant drives up infections in Southeast Asia’s largest economy. The country has seen its daily case count cross 40,000 for three straight days -- including a record high of 54,517 on Wednesday -- up from less than 10,000 a month ago. Officials are concerned that the more transmissible new variant is now spreading outside of the country’s main island, Java, and could exhaust hospital workers and supplies of oxygen and medication. That said, Indonesia’s current numbers are still far from India’s peak of 400,000 daily cases in May, and its total outbreak of 2.7 million is barely a tenth of the Asian giant’s 30.9 million. India, with a population roughly five times the size of Indonesia’s 270 million people, saw daily infections drop below 39,000 on Wednesday as its devastating outbreak wanes. The Southeast Asian country reported about 900 deaths daily on average in the past seven days - compared to just 181 a month ago - while India reported an average of 1,027 daily fatalities. As Bloomberg observes, the outbreak in Indonesia underscores the consequences of an unequal global distribution of vaccines that has seen richer countries gobble up more of the supply, leaving poorer places exposed to outbreaks of variants like delta. World Health Organization director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has called the growing divide a “catastrophic moral failure.” He is of course referring to the inability of pharma giants like Pfizer to deliver millions of doses to poor countries like Indonesia which won't pay it tens of billions of dollars. Well, poor countries like Indonesia are taking matters into their own hands, and we wonder what China Ted will say now that the Asian nation has found a way out of the vaccine squeeze: one involving the use of the single most hated compound by rich pharma barons everywhere. Upon learning the news, social media had some amusing, if painfully accurate, reactions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Gandang Smile said: This is huge, When are the Philippines going to follow suit? News articles I read say that Indonesia started using Invermectin in June. The latest report this week do not show any reduction in the Covid growth rates. Why would anyone follow that lackluster result? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffH Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 I suspect Indonesia are scrambling for anything that might make it look like they're doing something... to be seen doing something is after all better politically than to do nothing. And it it does very little then that's a problem for 'future politician' to deal with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandang Smile Posted July 16, 2021 Author Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said: News articles I read say that Indonesia started using Invermectin in June. The latest report this week do not show any reduction in the Covid growth rates. Why would anyone follow that lackluster result? There's plenty of studies that confirm that Ivermectin has been very effective against Covid-19, as well as "exceedingly cheap". To me, that's exactly what an emerging economy like Indonesia and the Philippines need to invest on. Always better than shelling out billions to fatten up big pharma budgets... Edited July 16, 2021 by Gandang Smile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy79 Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 I've been following the Ivermectin trail quite a lot and being bored yesterday watched an hour long talk on it by proper published experts. They were pretty unbiased and went through the main trials to date using normal procedures that any medicine goes through and compared the reactions to the results from more stringent vaccine trials. In short they highlighted that no current published paper on Ivermectin would pass even the basic remit for a medicine to be shown as effective. They did highlight that there are 5 proper trials currently underway using the Gold standard for medicines and until then do not take Ivermectin as there has been a few hundred deaths already due to self treatment by ivermectin. They also rubbished the idea that big pharma are the ones stopping Ivermectin use. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 When it comes to most things, particularly if I'm putting something into my body, I'll take the "mainstream" option every time. Whilst accepting that the big pharmas may or may not be gouging us/governments, these global behemoths have survived for a reason and it's not because they are killing people! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffH Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, Gandang Smile said: There's plenty of studies that confirm that Ivermectin has been very effective against Covid-19 By far the largest positive study of Ivermectin has recently been shown to have serious issues with plagarism and faking of data and the study has since been withdrawn. None of the other studies are anything like as positive towards Ivermectin. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy79 Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 The report on the trials I watched highlighted that Invermectin was capable of killing Covid in vitro but at a concentration level that was dangerous to the human body. There was also no standardised dose of Invermectin for bodyweight between any trial and the vast majority of patients were at least 5 days into covid before being prescribed the drug. They highlighted that as covid has such a high survival rate anyway it's virtually impossible to say Invermectin saved them as the numbers of patients were so low and no placebo trials were carried out using random selected patients. They found almost all trials put forward were positive and the negative trial were ignored, again swaying the science. They did blame mainstream tech companies from blocking Invermectin reports as it gave credibility to those that don't trust the pharma companies. They highlighted it wasn't the pharma companies blocking it but that the pharma companies with all the years of trialing medicines weren't about to put money and energy into the research into Invermectin as already they had spent hundreds of millions on vaccines that have now been given to billions of people with relatively few issues. Historical trials had shown that only three maybe four medicines ever developed matched the efficiency of the vaccines. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandang Smile Posted July 16, 2021 Author Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, GeoffH said: By far the largest positive study of Ivermectin has recently been shown to have serious issues with plagarism and faking of data and the study has since been withdrawn. None of the other studies are anything like as positive towards Ivermectin. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns According to mainstream press, vaccines are 100% safe and side-effect free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffH Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Gandang Smile said: According to mainstream press, vaccines are 100% safe and side-effect free. Mainstream press has many times said that vaccines have rare side effects. The thing is... the chance of getting sick from the disease is much higher than the chance of getting sick from the vaccine so most people choose the (much much) lower risk of vaccines. But as I've said before, if you don't want a vaccine then no one is forcing you to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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