Forum Support Popular Post Old55 Posted November 13, 2021 Forum Support Popular Post Posted November 13, 2021 Govt to study proposed lifting of quarantine for fully vaccinated travelers CNN November 12 2021 Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, November 12) — The government will study the proposal to lift the quarantine requirement for fully vaccinated travelers, an official of the Department of Health said on Friday. Currently, only fully vaccinated travelers from "green" countries and territories, or those tagged as low risk for COVID-19, are exempt from quarantine upon arrival in the Philippines. "Ito'y pinag-uusapan na. Actually, this was part of the discussion in the Inter-Agency Task Force (meeting) yesterday. Ito ay further na pinapaaral sa atin ng IATF officials para makita natin talaga ang mga pros and cons based on scientific evidence," Health Undersecretary Maria Rosario Vergeire said in an online media briefing when asked about Presidential Adviser for Entrepreneurship Joey Concepcion's pitch. [Translation: This is already being discussed. Actually, this was part of the discussion in the IATF meeting yesterday. IATF officials asked us to study this further, so we can see its pros and cons based on scientific evidence.] The recommendation may be out in the coming weeks, she added. Concepcion on Thursday pushed for "zero quarantine" for fully vaccinated travelers. He has proposed to have them undergo two COVID-19 tests — 48 hours prior to departure and then upon arrival — in lieu of quarantine. Concepcion said his proposal would help the ailing airline industry recover from the COVID-19 crisis. https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2021/11/12/DOH-zero-quarantine-fully-vaccinated.html 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave Hounddriver Posted November 13, 2021 Popular Post Posted November 13, 2021 Hmmm lets see. 108M pop in Phils. 1/3 vaccinated. 8M tourists per year but they are only allowing fully vaccinated tourists. Hmmmm. Study done. Its a drop in the bucket. If the 70M unvaccinated Filipinos are not spreading Covid then another 8M fully vaxed tourists will not hurt a thing. BUT if there is an outbreak it will surely be the tourist's fault 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonjack2847 Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said: Hmmm lets see. 108M pop in Phils. 1/3 vaccinated. 8M tourists per year but they are only allowing fully vaccinated tourists. Hmmmm. Study done. Its a drop in the bucket. If the 70M unvaccinated Filipinos are not spreading Covid then another 8M fully vaxed tourists will not hurt a thing. BUT if there is an outbreak it will surely be the tourist's fault If you test negative when you leave your home country and again when you get here where is the problem? I do think that some of the people making decisions are not best suited for the job, IE no medical knowledge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support scott h Posted November 13, 2021 Forum Support Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said: BUT if there is an outbreak it will surely be the tourist's fault Of course it will! And they will never tell you that the number of Balikbayans returning to visit family far outnumber "tourists". It would not fit the narrative. Just as a bueaty queen with a foreign father is Pilipino, but a Filipino born child molester with USA citizen ship is an American! 48 minutes ago, sonjack2847 said: IE no medical knowledge. I think we are past the point of medical knowledge now. It is now a matter of statistics. It really is a matter of the number of the number of available hospital beds to treat severe cases. As Dave says there are 30 plus million jabbed people in the Phil. But the majority of those are in the Metropolitan areas. All it would take is one asymptomatic balikbayan to slip through, return to his home province where the jab rate is low and WHAMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Mike J Posted November 13, 2021 Forum Support Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, sonjack2847 said: If you test negative when you leave your home country and again when you get here where is the problem? I do think that some of the people making decisions are not best suited for the job, IE no medical knowledge. A potential problem is that even vaccinated people who test negative can be in the early stages of covid false negative). Another potential problem is fake/counterfeit vaccination certificates in addition to a false negative test. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebie Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 Lets not forget they also still studying the value of face masks... and clearly that particular study is taking some time ( only a cynic would think there are still warehouses full of these things that they need to move, first ) . This subject of letting in poriners is clearly not going to be on a fast track, might get diverted by the 2 weeks Christmas holdiay, then by election season so possibly the study will be concluded and enacted by..... The Next Administration here.... never a dull moment here...... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Forum Support Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Freebie said: Lets not forget they also still studying the value of face masks... and clearly that particular study is taking some time ( only a cynic would think there are still warehouses full of these things that they need to move, first ) . This subject of letting in poriners is clearly not going to be on a fast track, might get diverted by the 2 weeks Christmas holdiay, then by election season so possibly the study will be concluded and enacted by..... The Next Administration here.... never a dull moment here...... I'm shocked and saddened by your cynical comment Freebie! The all knowing honorable compassionate Concepcion stated; "Concepcion said his proposal would help the ailing airline industry recover from the COVID-19 crisis." The last thing any of those morons think of is the Filipino people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebie Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Old55 said: I'm shocked and saddened by your cynical comment Freebie! The all knowing honorable compassionate Concepcion stated; "Concepcion said his proposal would help the ailing airline industry recover from the COVID-19 crisis." The last thing any of those morons think of is the Filipino people. And theres The Statement Of The Day ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 The article only talks about lifting / amending the quarantine restrictions for “travelers”. It does not say anything about opening up for tourists and lifting the current restrictions placed on them. I interpret it to mean making easier for balikbayans and OFW’s to return. But the next logical step would be to open up for tourists again, however when has logic ever been part of their discussions. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Forum Support Posted November 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Gator said: The article only talks about lifting / amending the quarantine restrictions for “travelers”. It does not say anything about opening up for tourists and lifting the current restrictions placed on them. I interpret it to mean making easier for balikbayans and OFW’s to return. But the next logical step would be to open up for tourists again, however when has logic ever been part of their discussions. Or providing more vaccine to Filipino citizens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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