Aircon cost - I gave the wife money for a 2.5HP 24K BTU. She bought a 5 TON 60K BTU.

[OnMyWay]

1 hour ago, JoeLansing said:

It's already installed.  Ha!  She just got me a photo of it.  Doesn't look like a 5 ton to me.  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZRtbnNwo_YxuQ0aFk8NRQNh49HTwpzVN/view?usp=drive_link  

Here's a pic of the house for more perspective.  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aBOQtOlEsyCXYLtOP-9x1HUfwXmWr_2f/view?usp=drive_link

The house is back behind here.  This is her brother's place out front.  https://www.google.com/maps/@9.9388738,124.1561637,3a,75y,91.16h,83.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOtnqkugQZ-TQCAjQqj1gOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

The largest residential Koppel is 3 hp.  They are all inverter.  I don't see much German about them.

https://koppel.ph/about-us/company-history/

[JoeLansing]

13 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

The largest residential Koppel is 3 hp.  They are all inverter.  I don't see much German about them.
https://koppel.ph/about-us/company-history/

You're close.  It's a commercial 3HP supposedly made in Philippines KFM-36E0W .  https://koppel.ph/products/floor-mounted-era-series-commercial-3

I'm ok with it for now I suppose.  I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.  Here's a photo of it in the house.  

[Dave Hounddriver]

30 minutes ago, JoeLansing said:

Here's a photo of it in the house.

That big air conditioner looks a lot like one I had in a house I rented in 2008.  It was needed due to jalousie windows and no insulation but the horrifying thing was the electric bill was as high as the rent, no joke.

[skippyscage]

18 hours ago, Greglm said:

I have a 1 ton [12000 btu] that cools my living kitchen area, but the house is well insulated.

you had a house built with insulation? No one here has any idea what insulation even is....

[Tommy T.]

5 hours ago, JoeLansing said:

I'm ok with it for now I suppose. 

Look at it this way..... If it is a bit too powerful - and, indeed, it looks like the ones I see in restaurants - you can stack your beers on racks in front of it to keep them chilled! Then you won't need a refrigerator!

[Possum]

5 hours ago, skippyscage said:

you had a house built with insulation? No one here has any idea what insulation even is....

Actually it wasn't built with insulation in the conventional sense. I used reinforced polystyrene panels which are available in the Philippines. The panels themselves provide insulation and are very strong.  It's surprising more people don't use them for residential building as hospitals and hotels have been using them for years.

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[Possum]

9 hours ago, JoeLansing said:

You're close.  It's a commercial 3HP supposedly made in Philippines KFM-36E0W .  https://koppel.ph/products/floor-mounted-era-series-commercial-3

I'm ok with it for now I suppose.  I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.  Here's a photo of it in the house.  

Make sure the installer grounded the unit properly. Ask him to show you how it is grounded. Koppel and other suppliers provide written instructions but Filipino installers never read them. If the unit dies and was not properly installed according to manufacturers specification? You warranty is useless.

[hk blues]

On 6/4/2023 at 12:02 PM, JoeLansing said:

It's already installed.  Ha!  She just got me a photo of it.  Doesn't look like a 5 ton to me.  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZRtbnNwo_YxuQ0aFk8NRQNh49HTwpzVN/view?usp=drive_link  

Here's a pic of the house for more perspective.  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aBOQtOlEsyCXYLtOP-9x1HUfwXmWr_2f/view?usp=drive_link

The house is back behind here.  This is her brother's place out front.  https://www.google.com/maps/@9.9388738,124.1561637,3a,75y,91.16h,83.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOtnqkugQZ-TQCAjQqj1gOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Is that a nice new 5 ton A/C unit I see in your brother-in-law's place? 

[Lee]

7 hours ago, Greglm said:

Make sure the installer grounded the unit properly. Ask him to show you how it is grounded. Koppel and other suppliers provide written instructions but Filipino installers never read them. If the unit dies and was not properly installed according to manufacturers specification? You warranty is useless.

Do you possibly have the instructions that should be used to properly ground the air con unit? We had the same aircon installed a year ago and there were no instructions of any kind in the box that I saw.

[JoeLansing]

13 hours ago, Lee said:

Do you possibly have the instructions that should be used to properly ground the air con unit? We had the same aircon installed a year ago and there were no instructions of any kind in the box that I saw.

I looked hard and all I can find are these 2 documents:

https://koppel.ph/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Koppel-Floor-Mounted-ERA-Operation-Manual.pdf

https://koppel.ph/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Koppel-Floor-Mounted-ERA-Series.pdf

Grounding in Philippines is still making me twitch.  2 prong outlets?  I do soldering, and micro SMD/SMT soldering, and computer repair, and I really want to be grounded.  They don't even have a ground on the outlet I can poke a wrist strap ground into.  I guess I'll have to solder near a water pipe and use it as a ground.  :(   I hear a lot of "use a UPS or your electronics will die".  No wonder if nothing has a ground to filter off the evil.

- Joe

 

Edited June 6, 2023 by JoeLansing