P_X Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 The guy said personal use but had a scale and baggies on the table. No need for a scale for personal. Granted, his op was not cheech and Chong proportions but even a bud ain't worth that risk here. That little grow tent with a cpl chintzy led lights probably pumped out a cpl oz every cpl months. Not much yield from 3 little moms. But why the scale? He was selling to someone for sure 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_X Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 On 11/10/2023 at 3:55 PM, Jollygoodfellow said: As the different stories say, it is a kit so been purchased somewhere. Can get a tent and lights of that caliber on Amazon for $300 or less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 9:33 PM, fillipino_wannabe said: Saw the video on Facebook. He was saying he has cancer and blaming his wife for reporting him. If she lives there he can just blame her, and if he has cancer he can get a medical exception which makes it legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fillipino_wannabe Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Kingpin said: If she lives there he can just blame her, and if he has cancer he can get a medical exception which makes it legal. They're separated. I don't think you can get an exception to start smoking actual weed here, just for some expensive CBD type medicine: https://www.onenews.ph/articles/moms-of-children-with-epilepsy-risk-all-for-medical-marijuana' Charlotte and Dr. Cunanan’s daughter Julia both have Dravet syndrome, an “intractable” type of epilepsy; meaning, it resists most pharmaceutical drugs. Dr. Cunanan was rejected outright because Charlotte’s Web is considered a food supplement, not a medicine. It was only in 2020 when the Dangerous Drugs Board (DDB) allowed compassionate permit access to CBD products that have 0.1 percent THC. But she was dismayed to find out that the brand that fits the criteria, Epidiolex – an approved pharmaceutical grade CBD in the US – would cost her $32,000 a month, or P1.78 million a year, just to import the medicine from abroad.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy F. Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 Could the scales belong to the police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Mike J Posted November 19, 2023 Forum Support Posted November 19, 2023 23 hours ago, Kingpin said: If she lives there he can just blame her, and if he has cancer he can get a medical exception which makes it legal. Medical exception would almost certainly be an expensive and no win effort. Source - Wikipedia <clip> While cannabis remains widely illegal including medical use, individuals with serious or terminal illness may apply for special permit from Food and Drugs Authority for drugs unregistered in the Philippines including those containing cannabis. Since issuance of permits began in 1992, only one application has been filed to seek consent to use cannabis oil as of December 2018.[6] <end clip> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 23 hours ago, Mike J said: Medical exception would almost certainly be an expensive and no win effort. Source - Wikipedia Your source is 5 years old...and is only for "cannabis oil"...and is Wikipedia. The reality is it's a very popular request, I know one who succeeded without much effort and another on the way: https://web.facebook.com/CannaLegalPH/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Mike J Posted November 20, 2023 Forum Support Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Kingpin said: Your source is 5 years old...and is only for "cannabis oil"...and is Wikipedia. The reality is it's a very popular request, I know one who succeeded without much effort and another on the way: https://web.facebook.com/CannaLegalPH/ A quoted article from your source dated February 2023. <snip> Is medical cannabis in the Philippines legal? The short answer is yes—but the reality is more complex than that. In 2018 the Universe asked Catriona Gray if she supports the legalization of marijuana, and when she answered yes to medical use, she won the Crown and the hearts of medical cannabis advocates worldwide. From the lips of the Miss Universe herself, cannabis, albeit in moderation, should not be denied from people. After this Universe-winning answer, the spotlight swung towards the Philippine government for a response. Senator Vicente Sotto III, senate president and primary author of the Comprehensive Drugs Act, claimed that there is no need for legalization in the Philippines because medical cannabis is “already allowed” under the current laws and policies. Sen. Sotto’s statement was a head-scratcher for a lot of Filipinos, especially when they watch marijuana burned in plazas like the witches of yore on primetime news. The ‘legality’ of marijuana that the senator was pertaining to is the Compassionate Special Permit, issued by the Food and Drug Administration. The Compassionate Special Permit was issued more than thirty years ago by the Department of Health. Administrative Order No.4 series of 1992 entitled ‘Policy Requirements for Availing of Compassionate Special Permit (CSP) for Restricted Use of Unregistered Drug and Device Product/Preparation’ was issued to address the growing gap between locally registered drug products and the need of terminally ill patients for cutting-edge medicine or treatment. It must be noted that the CSP was only given to patients with terminal disease without known treatment locally, hence in ‘compassion’ to your predicament, the government will allow you to get medicines unregistered and untested by the Philippine FDA. Does this mean you can get ANY drug or medicine available? Well, no. The medicine that could be allowed under the CSP should be a ‘final pharmaceutical product’, meaning it must be in finished dosage form (tablet, capsule, syrup, vial, etc.), including packaging and labeling. Additionally, the medicine must be registered in the country of origin, and that country must be a ‘stringent regulatory authority’—meaning the drug product should not come from just any Absurdistan. List of countries with stringent regulatory authority could be found here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_stringent... Hurdling that, you must have a doctor that will advocate for you, because the requirements for administering doctors are steep. Aside from having an S-2 License (a license to prescribe controlled products or dangerous drugs), the doctor must submit a curriculum vitae to the FDA and a written commitment to submit a Clinical Study Report for every patient they recommend for a CSP. For context, a clinical study report is akin to those done by pharmaceutical companies in clinical trials. In a country with a 3.7 doctors per 10,000 population, this is a very tall order. Now, where does cannabis get into the equation? The medical benefits of marijuana did not escape big pharmaceutical companies. Epidiolex®, Marinol®, and Sativex® are some of the cannabis medicinal products that could hurdle the pharmaceutical requirement of the CSP. In fact, some patients here in the Philippines have applied for a CSP to get these medicines and succeeded but stopped short of actually buying them—because it is incredibly expensive. Epidiolex® will set you back $32,500 a year (Php1.8 million) notwithstanding doctor and importation fees. So, is cannabis legal in the Philippines? On a technicality. Will you have access to cannabis medicine? Probably not. What is definite here in the Pearl of the Orient is that when you get caught with cannabis on your person, you will get jail time—or even the death penalty if it is restored. Under current laws, importation, sale, manufacture, use, and cultivation of marijuana and marijuana-related products shall be met with life imprisonment and a fine of up to ten million pesos.# ——— Haraya Policy Center is working towards the rewriting, rethinking, and streamlining the Compassionate Special Permit and other laws and policies related to cannabis. If you are interested or have questions, send us a DM. <end snip> Edited November 20, 2023 by Mike J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Mike J said: patients here in the Philippines have applied for a CSP to get these medicines and succeeded Like I said, it's not uncommon. Nobody said it was cheap though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Mike J Posted November 21, 2023 Forum Support Posted November 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kingpin said: Like I said, it's not uncommon. Nobody said it was cheap though. Actually you did not say "it's not uncommon", you said "The reality is it's a very popular request". And "you knew one who succeeded without much effort. "One" does not seem to me to be a reliable barometer of success. The source document seems to indicate there is quite a bit of effort. And if it really did require not much effort, why try to pass a new law? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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