Baby on the way from Filipina / engaged

[Jollygoodfellow]

9 hours ago, Vegas_Vol_2021 said:

How much time does it take to do the marriage process once I locate my U.S. birth. certificate can that be done in a couple of weeks or might more then?  Prenup and all that also if needed :). 

There is a mandatory 10 day waiting period for anyone to object. 

[Jack Peterson]

29 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

There is a mandatory 10 day waiting period for anyone to object. 

 Quite right if you hit the registrars time frame BUT........

 

How long is the waiting period for marriage in the Philippines?

 

 

Once the requirements are submitted, along with the application form for the marriage license, you will have to wait 10 business days or 2 weeks for the document to be issued. Once you have the marriage license, you can then proceed with the marriage ceremony.

 Sorry Boss but sometimes things have to be said, as we know, very little here is always straight forward 

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[Jollygoodfellow]

15 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said:

 Quite right if you hit the registrars time frame BUT........

 

How long is the waiting period for marriage in the Philippines?

 

 

Once the requirements are submitted, along with the application form for the marriage license, you will have to wait 10 business days or 2 weeks for the document to be issued. Once you have the marriage license, you can then proceed with the marriage ceremony.

 Sorry Boss but sometimes things have to be said, as we know, very little here is always straight forward 

Yes, thats what I said I think

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Compulsory Waiting Period Before Issuance Of The Marriage License
Marriage license laws requires a ten-day public announcement after submitting the marriage application form to the local civil registrar. This creates a "cooling off" period of 10 consecutive days before a marriage ceremony can take place. Note that the waiting period is 90 days/3 months if you are under 25 and don't have an Affidavit of Parental Advice.

 

[Mike J]

Two articles about prenups in the Philippines.  The first written by US attorneys, the second by Philippine attorneys.

https://www.international-divorce.com/prenuptial-agreements-in-the-philippines

Although divorce is not allowed under Philippine law, prenuptial agreements are permissible to “fix the property relations during the marriage within the limits provided by this Code.”

Article 1 of the Family Code of the Philippines provides that, “Marriage is a special contract of permanent union between a man and a woman entered into in accordance with law for the establishment of conjugal and family life. It is the foundation of the family and an inviolable social institution whose nature, consequences, and incidents are governed by law and not subject to stipulation, except that marriage settlements may fix the property relations during the marriage within the limits provided by this Code.” The Family Code, otherwise known as Executive Order No. 209, took effect in 1988.

The Family Code provides that a regime of absolute community of property applies automatically upon marriage. However, that regime is subordinate to the terms of a valid prenuptial agreement.

Thus the Code specifies that “Unless otherwise provided in this Chapter or in the marriage settlements, the community property shall consist of all the property owned by the spouses at the time of the celebration of the marriage or acquired thereafter.” Article 91. Certain specified items are excluded from the default regime of community property but the burden is on the party asserting that an item is excluded to prove that such is the case. (Articles 92 and 93).

A prenuptial agreement may contain such terms as the parties wish to govern their affairs. However, the Family Code provides for certain specific regimes that the parties may choose to adopt, these being:

The regime of Conjugal Partnership of Gains, whereby the husband and wife place in a common fund the proceeds, products, fruits and income from their separate properties and those acquired by either or both spouses through their efforts or by chance, and, upon dissolution of the marriage or of the partnership, the net gains or benefits obtained by either or both spouses shall be divided equally between them, unless otherwise agreed in the marriage settlements; and

The regime of Separation of Property, whereby each spouse shall own, dispose of, possess, administer and enjoy his or her own separate estate, without need of the consent of the other, and which may refer to present or future property or both and which may be total or partial.

Prenuptial agreements must be entered into voluntarily. They should be in writing. They can be set aside for lack of consent, fraud, coercion, mistake, undue influence or bad faith. In order to be effective against third persons, they must be notarized and recorded in the Registry of Property for the Protection of Creditors and in the local civil registry.

A prenuptial agreement may stipulate as to what law will determine the parties' property relations. Absent such a choice of law clause the law of the Philippines will govern such matters if one spouse is a Filipino citizen. However, the laws of the Philippines will not apply to property located outside the Philippines. Article 16 of the Civil Code of the Philippines provides that, "Real property as well as personal property is subject to the law of the country where it is situated."

Our office has worked on several U.S. – Philippines prenuptial agreements, always collaborating with local counsel in all jurisdictions as appropriate.

Disclaimer: We are admitted to practice only in New York but work as appropriate with lawyers throughout all U.S. states and throughout the world.

https://attorney.org.ph/legal-news/391-the-importance-of-pre-nuptial-agreements-in-the-philippines-a-guide-for-couples

A prenuptial agreement, commonly known as a prenup, is a legal contract entered into by two individuals before they get married. It outlines how their assets, finances, and other important matters will be handled in the event of a divorce or separation. While prenups are not mandatory in the Philippines, they can provide crucial protection for couples in various ways. In this blog, we will explore the importance of prenuptial agreements for couples in the Philippines and how they can safeguard their assets, clarify financial rights and obligations, protect family inheritance, address issues related to alimony or support, protect business interests, and provide peace of mind.

Protection of Assets
One of the significant advantages of a prenup is its ability to safeguard individual assets brought into the marriage. In the Philippines, there is a community property regime where all properties acquired by the spouses during the marriage are presumed to be owned in equal shares. However, with a prenup, couples can specify which properties will remain separate and which will be considered marital property. This can be especially crucial for individuals who have acquired properties, investments, or businesses before getting married and wish to protect them in case of a divorce.

For example, if one spouse owns a property before marriage and wants to keep it as separate property, a prenup can specify that the property will not be considered part of the community property regime. This means that in case of divorce, the property will be retained by the original owner, and the other spouse will not have any claim to it. Prenups can also protect other assets, such as investments, businesses, and other valuable possessions, ensuring that they are not subject to division during divorce proceedings.

Clarification of Financial Rights and Obligations
Another essential aspect of prenups is that they can help couples define their financial responsibilities and expectations clearly. Financial matters can often be a source of conflict in marriages, and a prenup can address these issues in advance, helping to avoid misunderstandings and disputes down the road. For instance, a prenup can outline how expenses will be shared between the spouses, whether they will maintain joint accounts, and how debts will be managed.

By setting out these financial rights and obligations in a prenup, couples can have a clear understanding of their financial responsibilities during the marriage, which can help prevent conflicts and misunderstandings. This can be especially beneficial when it comes to managing joint finances, budgeting, and making financial decisions together. A well-drafted prenup can provide a roadmap for financial matters, ensuring that both parties are on the same page and have a clear understanding of their roles and responsibilities.

Protection of Family Inheritance
In the Philippines, family inheritance holds significant cultural and emotional value. It is often passed down from generation to generation, and families take great pride in preserving their lineage and heritage. However, in the event of a divorce or separation, family inheritance can become a contentious issue. This is where a prenuptial agreement can play a crucial role in protecting family inheritance.

A prenup can clearly outline how family inheritance will be treated in case of a divorce or separation. It can specify that any family inheritance received during the marriage will remain separate property and not subject to division or distribution. This can prevent any potential disputes or claims by the other party in the event of a divorce, ensuring that the family inheritance remains within the intended family lineage.

It is important to note that in the absence of a prenup, family inheritance can be considered as community property and subject to division under the community property regime in the Philippines. By having a prenup in place, couples can proactively protect family inheritance and ensure that it is not jeopardized in the event of a divorce or separation.

Alimony and Support
Another critical aspect that can be addressed in a prenuptial agreement is the issue of alimony or spousal support in case of a divorce. Alimony refers to the financial support that one spouse may be required to provide to the other spouse after a divorce to meet their financial needs. A prenup can outline the terms and conditions of alimony or support, including the amount, duration, and method of payment.

Having a prenup that includes provisions for alimony or support can provide clarity and predictability in case of a divorce, avoiding potential disputes or litigation. It can help both parties understand their financial responsibilities and obligations towards each other, and provide a framework for addressing any financial support needs that may arise after a divorce.

Protection of Business Interests
For couples where one or both parties own a business, a prenuptial agreement can be particularly crucial in protecting business interests. A well-drafted prenup can outline how the business will be managed, treated as marital or separate property, and handled in case of divorce or separation.

A prenup can specify that the business will remain separate property and not subject to division or distribution in case of a divorce. It can also outline how the business will be valued and divided if necessary, or provide for a buy-out provision to protect the business owner's interests. This can help prevent potential financial losses and disruptions to business operations that may arise in the event of a divorce.

Moreover, a prenup can also address issues such as the involvement of the spouse in the business, ownership percentages, and decision-making authority. This can provide clarity and certainty for both parties and help avoid potential conflicts or disputes related to the business during the marriage or in case of a divorce.

Peace of Mind
One of the intangible but significant benefits of a prenuptial agreement is the peace of mind it can provide for both parties. Knowing that their assets, financial rights, and obligations are clearly defined and protected can reduce stress and uncertainty in the relationship. It can also minimize emotional and financial stress in potential divorce proceedings, as many of the contentious issues have already been addressed in the prenup.

A well-drafted prenup can provide a sense of security and stability, allowing couples to focus on building their relationship without the fear of financial disputes or legal battles in the future. It can also promote open and honest communication about financial matters, which can contribute to a healthy and harmonious marriage.

Conclusion
In conclusion, prenuptial agreements, while not mandatory, can offer significant benefits to couples in the Philippines. They provide a legal framework for protecting assets, clarifying financial rights and obligations, safeguarding family inheritance, addressing issues related to alimony or support, protecting business interests, and providing peace of mind. By taking a proactive approach to addressing potential financial challenges in a marriage, a well-drafted prenup can help couples navigate divorce or separation with greater clarity and reduce emotional and financial stress.

It is important for couples to understand that a prenup should not be viewed as a plan for divorce, but rather as a tool for safeguarding interests and promoting a healthy and harmonious relationship. Open communication, trust, and mutual understanding should always be prioritized in a marriage, alongside a legally valid and carefully drafted prenuptial agreement.

When considering a prenup, it is crucial to seek the assistance of a qualified legal professional who specializes in family law and has experience in drafting prenuptial agreements in the Philippines. This ensures that the prenup meets all legal requirements and serves the best interests of both parties.

While prenuptial agreements may not be for everyone, they can provide valuable protection and peace of mind for couples in the Philippines. It is essential to carefully weigh the pros and cons, communicate openly with your partner, and seek professional legal advice to make informed decisions about whether a prenup is right for your specific circumstances. Ultimately, a well-crafted prenup can serve as a valuable tool in safeguarding your financial interests and promoting a healthy and stable marriage.

[Snowy79]

I'm sure it will be fun broaching the subject with your future wife but unless you can afford to lose something and not look back I'd protect my assets. Mind you I'm of an age where I'm probably too old to start from scratch again. I'm sure everyone here who has been divorced married the love of their life and divorced a complete psycho. 😉

Personally I've never met a person who signed a prenup that regretted it but I've met many who never and are. 

This could be the first real test of your relationship. 

[Gutenberg]