Family support

[Viking]

Most of us know that we are supposed to support the family but I think few of us knew that it is actually the law!

https://youtu.be/EyecLaGcfBU?si=WT_ALcP7BrKO5-m4

[stevewool]

Well if I was in the Philippines and someone mentioned this is what’s going to happen to me and my wife , I’d be on the first plane out of the country 

[Old55]

If ones assets are kept offshore little or no risk. A prenuptial will also curtail most money grabs. 

Edited April 2 by Old55
Corrected spelling

[Mike J]

Tempest in the teapot in my opinion.  I am not particularly concerned as this is the Philippines and we know many laws are not followed.  I think, in reality, the primary enforcement of law, is for child support.  Ten years here and a few as moderator and I have never heard of an expat being held to this standard with the possible exception of child support and/or support for a separated spouse.    

[Possum]

5 hours ago, Mike J said:

I am not particularly concerned as this is the Philippines and we know many laws are not followed.

 Me neither. I'll start worrying about this when they start enforcing traffic laws which are much easier to prosecute.

[Viking]

14 hours ago, Old55 said:

If ones assets are kept offshore little or no risk. A prenuptial will also curtail most money grabs. 

A prenup will protect you, but not your wife, from the potential freeloaders.

11 hours ago, Mike J said:

Tempest in the teapot in my opinion.  I am not particularly concerned as this is the Philippines and we know many laws are not followed.  I think, in reality, the primary enforcement of law, is for child support.  Ten years here and a few as moderator and I have never heard of an expat being held to this standard with the possible exception of child support and/or support for a separated spouse.    

I agree that this probably don't change anything, but just the idea of making this a law shows how xxxx up the legal system is in the Philippines. Take note that it wasn't just the parents who could demand to receive support but also siblings. No surprise that there is so many people doing nothing when this mindset rules.

I remember my brother in law told me that the company he worked for (seaman) payed 80% of his salary to his mother and 20% to him before he got married! He didn't receive all of his salary until after he got married.

[Rooster]

For me, it's another experience of listening to Pea or a PI attorney, then research the law and discover they are not familiar with their own laws. The Attorney stated there is no law to enforce child support in The Philippines. It's well known that a Deadbeat male parent in The Philippines are being charged using RA 9262

 

MANILA, Philippines — Several lawmakers recently filed a bill that sets a fixed amount of financial support non-custodial fathers must provide for their children, penalizing "deadbeat" parents with imprisonment and hefty fines in the process.

House Bill 8987 or the "Paternal Child Support Responsibility Act of 2023" was filed by the following solons on August 29: ACT-CIS Reps. Erwin Tulfo, Edvic Yap and Jocelyn Tulfo, Benguet Rep. Eric Yap and Quezon City Rep. Ralph Tulfo.

"In a recent study by the World Health Organization, it is accounted that 15 million Filipinos are solo parents — nine-five percent (95%) of which are women," said HB 8987's explanatory note.

"In light that majority of the deadbeat parents are men, there is an imminent necessity to ensure that paternal child support is thoroughly enforced and the neglect of paternal responsibility shall be dealth with stringent penalties."

The Republic Act 9262 or the Anti-Violence Against Women and their Children Act currently criminalizes the act of being a deadbeat parent — defined as a parent who has "abandoned his/her parental obligation" or is "unwilling to pay his/her child support obligation" — as a form of economic abuse.

However, the current proposed measure seeks to establish exactly the amount of paternal child support needed to be paid and streamline the process in establishing paternity.

How much is the needed support?

Child support, according to the legislative measure, is defined as the money regularly paid by one parent to the other for the purpose of providing adequate financial support to their common child or children.

Section 5 of the bill further clarifies on a non-custodial parent's obligation:

"The amount of Paternal Child Support per child shall be at least ten percent (10%) of the father's salary. However, this Act mandates that a paternal child support per child shall not be lower than Six Thousand Pesos (P6,000.00) per month, which is equivalent to Two Hundred Pesos (P200.00) per day."

 

Other than for the maintenance of the child, the support could also be for the support of both the child and the parent with whom medical attendance, education, and transportation, arrearages, or reimbursement, and which may include related costs and fees, interest and penalties, income witholding, attorneys' fees, and other relief.

A paternal child support order shall legally obligate the said fathers to provide support for their children and provides the needed amount (monthly obligation plus arrearages, if any) and how it is to be paid.

What are the penalties?

Any person who willfullly fails to pay paternal child support, consistent with RA 9262, shall be punished by prision mayor (six to 12 years imprisonment) and a fine not less than P100,000 but not more than P300,000 at the discretion of the court if such obligation has remained unpaid for a year.

This also applies if one has an outstading amount due of P50,000 or more. Inter-country agreements will likewise be implemented if the offender is a Filipino living overseas.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2023/09/09/2295057/sustento-o-kulong-house-bill-sets-non-custodial-child-support-10-fathers-income

Edited April 3 by Rooster

[hk blues]

16 hours ago, Viking said:

Take note that it wasn't just the parents who could demand to receive support but also siblings. No surprise that there is so many people doing nothing when this mindset rules.

I couldn't agree more.  This country takes the concept of the strong looking after the weak way too far.  

[Lee1154]

No foreigners would come to this country if they ever start enforcing this law.

[craftbeerlover]

8 hours ago, hk blues said:

This country takes the concept of the strong looking after the weak way too far

I do not see that at all in the Philippines.   I see the "strong" looking after themselves, and I see some family members looking after lazy siblings and sometimes lazy parents, but I absolutely do not see the strong looking after the weak.