Chronic Disease

[earthdome]

13 minutes ago, craftbeerlover said:

.. Where is Morley Safer, Mike Wallace and 60 minutes when you need them!!

They got bought off decades ago.

[craftbeerlover]

6 minutes ago, earthdome said:

They got bought off decades ago.

I thought they just got old; was a great show

[spaul]

I can tell you that as a guy with type 2 diabetes, the only thing that works for me is the keto diet. Not many carbs, all protein and vegetables.

I refused to take pills to control the diabetes and after a ton of research(years ago) I did the diet and it works. No more diabetes. But if I start eating crap again, the sugars go up.

I am noticing that after having been here over year now, that the only place I can get any decent food is the market (I say me but my wife does the buying to avoid the skin tax). Grocery store food is loaded with all of the crap.

I would suspect the level of diabetes in this country is staggering considering the poor food choices they have and the lack of money they have to buy quality food. All the bad stuff is dirt cheap.

[spaul]

RFK JR Children's Health Defense is certainly all about protecting the children from the big elephant in the room people don't like to talk about. I would attribute a lot of what is going on with children's health the past thirty years is directly related to the research his organization is doing. I won't say the "V" word so I don't offend anyone.

[OnMyWay]

1 hour ago, spaul said:

would suspect the level of diabetes in this country is staggering considering the poor food choices they have and the lack of money they have to buy quality food. All the bad stuff is dirt cheap.

I think there was a previous discussion here about diabetes and the U.S. and Philippines had similar rates.  Maybe 7%???

In the Philippines I would guess that diabetes effects the middle and upper classes, a smaller portion of the population.  The lower classes who mainly eat rice and traditional dishes can't afford a lot of the processed sugar foods.

[earthdome]

6 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

I think there was a previous discussion here about diabetes and the U.S. and Philippines had similar rates.  Maybe 7%???

In the Philippines I would guess that diabetes effects the middle and upper classes, a smaller portion of the population.  The lower classes who mainly eat rice and traditional dishes can't afford a lot of the processed sugar foods.

We let our 6 year old pay to play at the mall today. There were a number of kids there who looked like they had never missed a meal or merienda or snacks or candy. If you catch my meaning.

[craftbeerlover]

7 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

In the Philippines I would guess that diabetes effects the middle and upper classes, a smaller portion of the population.  The lower classes who mainly eat rice and traditional dishes can't afford a lot of the processed sugar foods.

I would think just the opposite or at least equal.   White rice 5 times a day 365 days a year is a contributor to type 2 diabetes, and sodas are consumed at just about the same rate, throw in cheap candy for the kids and some milk tea....   The 'lower class" do not have the best diets.

[OnMyWay]

8 minutes ago, craftbeerlover said:

White rice 5 times a day 365 days a year is a contributor to type 2 diabetes, and sodas are consumed at just about the same rate, throw in cheap candy for the kids and some milk tea....  

I know what you are saying about rice and I thought about that, but I speculate that the population that is not overweight has a lower diabetes rate.  Truly poor people are not eating rice 5X a day, buying sodas and candy, and getting fat.  Usually.  Regardless, it is only speculation.  The middle class are the ones getting fat.  Although thin people do get type 2 diabetes, it is obesity that starts it in many people.

[graham59]

8 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

The lower classes who mainly eat rice and traditional dishes can't afford a lot of the processed sugar foods.

From what I have observed (here in the jungle), I'd have to disagree with you on that one. 

 

[Possum]

White rice in the quantities consumed here as in other Asian cultures contributes to diabetes, that's a fact. Other countries in the west see an increase in diabetes due to over eating everything. I have no scientific study to back this up just my personal observation but it seems as soon as a poor person here gets some extra money they don't rush off to the market to buy fruit and vegetables which are quite inexpensive per gram compared to the junk food they prefer to buy at the local 7-11 or sari-sari.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7576435/

Another study I cannot find at the moment concerns the lack of protein in brain development among children. There isn't much protein in rice and meat protein is expensive here. For some reason beans, especially dry beans which contain a lot of protein are not available.

I was working in a poor country in the Caribbean and saw a lot of malnourished kids, red hair being a sign. They would munch on raw sugar cane to kill hunger. A doctor from the UK who was there said that was a double whammy as raw sugar cane contains as poison related to cyanide, couple that with a rice diet and low protein? Disaster. They were promoting a school feeding program for kids beginning at 4 years of age which would help. I don't expect anything like that to happen here though.