The harmful effects of gadget overuse

[longway]

I'm probably the odd one here. I don't look at any social media sites, I often leave home and don't bring my phone. I use my phone only to make/ receive calls and for texting.  I do use the internet on my PC as a browser to find interesting stuff (like this site) but not on my phone. When i see young kids ( and adults ) with their face stuck into their phones it saddens me. I like to think it's just a fad and will burn itself out eventually.

[hk blues]

8 hours ago, longway said:

I'm probably the odd one here. I don't look at any social media sites, I often leave home and don't bring my phone. I use my phone only to make/ receive calls and for texting.  I do use the internet on my PC as a browser to find interesting stuff (like this site) but not on my phone. When i see young kids ( and adults ) with their face stuck into their phones it saddens me. I like to think it's just a fad and will burn itself out eventually.

I'm not so different from you in terms of my usage.  

As for the idea of it being just a fad - possibly in the same way as TV might have been viewed in the 1950s. We now have 5 at home! 

[BrettGC]

The Australian government is thinking about age restricting social media by law.  Whilst I do sympathise with the sentiment I feel it's a little bit of overreach.

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Age Limit, Angering Youth Digital Advocates

• Australia to introduce age minimum for social media in 2024
• Government says minimum age will be around 14-16
• Advocates say ban will drive traffic to unregulated alternatives

SYDNEY, Sept 10 (Reuters) - Australia plans to set a minimum age limit for children to use social media citing concerns about mental and physical health, sparking a backlash from digital rights advocates who warn the measure could drive dangerous online activity underground.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said his centre-left government would run an age verification trial before introducing age minimum laws for social media this year.
Albanese didn't specify an age but said it would likely be between 14 and 16.

"I want to see kids off their devices and onto the footy fields and the swimming pools and the tennis courts," Albanese told the Australian Broadcasting Corp.

"We want them to have real experiences with real people because we know that social media is causing social harm," he added.

The law would put Australia among the first countries in the world to impose an age restriction on social media. Previous attempts, including by the European Union, have failed following complaints about reducing the online rights of minors.

Meta (META.O), opens new tab, owner of Facebook and Instagram, which has a self-imposed minimum age of 13, said it wanted to empower young people to benefit from its platforms and equip parents with the tools to support them "instead of just cutting off access".

YouTube owner Alphabet (GOOGL.O), opens new tab did not respond to a request for comment and TikTok were not immediately available for comment.

Australia has one of the world's most online populations with four-fifths of its 26 million people on social media, according to tech industry figures. Three quarters of Australians aged 12 to 17 had used YouTube or Instagram, a 2023 University of Sydney study found.

Albanese announced the age restriction plan against the backdrop of a parliamentary inquiry into social media's effects on society, which has heard sometimes emotional testimony of poor mental health impacts on teenagers.

But the inquiry has also heard concerns about whether a lower age limit could be enforced and, if it is, whether it would inadvertently harm younger people by encouraging them to hide their online activity.

"This knee-jerk move ... threatens to create serious harm by excluding young people from meaningful, healthy participation in the digital world, potentially driving them to lower quality online spaces," said Daniel Angus, director of the Queensland University of Technology Digital Media Research Centre.

Australia's own internet regulator, the eSafety Commissioner, warned in a June submission to the inquiry that "restriction-based approaches may limit young people's access to critical support" and push them to "less regulated non-mainstream services".

The commissioner said in a statement on Tuesday it would "continue working with stakeholders across government and the community to further refine Australia's approach to online harms" which can "threaten safety across a range of platforms at any age, both before and after the mid-teen years".

DIGI, an industry body representing social media platforms, said the government should listen to "expert voices such as the eSafety Commissioner ... mental health experts, as well as LGBTQIA+ and other marginalised groups who have expressed concerns about bans so that we're not unintentionally pushing our kids into unsafe, less visible parts of the Internet".

 

https://www.reuters.com/technology/australia-plans-social-media-ban-children-2024-09-09/

 

[Lee]

27 minutes ago, BrettGC said:

Australia to introduce age minimum for social media in 2024

How would ever be able to enforce such a ban here?

There are familys related to my wife where every person has a cell phone from the age of 6-60.

They will seemingly buy a cell phone before buying food.

[Jack Peterson]

 On a lighter note;

[BrettGC]

On 9/10/2024 at 5:15 PM, Lee said:

How would ever be able to enforce such a ban here?

There are familys related to my wife where every person has a cell phone from the age of 6-60.

They will seemingly buy a cell phone before buying food.

In Australia there's very thorough ID checking for buying alcohol so for those that don't have a driving licence state transport authorities issue proof of age cards that are photo ID, they could tie it into that.  If you don't have the proof of age card with the relevant reference number, you don't open an account.  It's pretty easy for social media platforms to "regionalise" to cater to this.  Pretty easy to get around  with a VPN for a tech savvy kid though i.e. most of them these days. 

And to the others who have mentioned it, I remember when TV was causing the sky to fall as well; I think that the social media issue is orders of magnitudes worse though. As with many other social issues though, I reckon it'll be considered normal behaviour in the not too distant future. 

Edited September 11 by BrettGC

[GeoffH]

21 hours ago, Lee said:

How would ever be able to enforce such a ban here?

They never could and I strongly doubt it's practicable even in first world countries.

Edited September 11 by GeoffH