Marcos

[craftbeerlover]

10 minutes ago, Possum said:

It remains to be seen how far the apple falls from the tree. But at the very least Marcos is very politically astute and knows how things work here.

without getting too deep into the politics here, he is actually doing better than I expected.  "seems" like he may be trying to erase his families tarnished past. 

[Lee1154]

17 hours ago, craftbeerlover said:

without getting too deep into the politics here, he is actually doing better than I expected.  "seems" like he may be trying to erase his families tarnished past. 

by doing good things without ever giving any of "the money" back?

[craftbeerlover]

13 minutes ago, Lee1154 said:

by doing good things without ever giving any of "the money" back?

you are right, and then there is that.   That was his father and not him, but it absolutely should not be overlooked. 

[Mike J]

18 hours ago, Possum said:

Everyone knows the corruption is endemic from the barangay to the executive branch and all agencies inbetween. Who's going to stop it? Ombudsmen ? Police? Ha.

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[scott h]

21 minutes ago, Lee1154 said:

by doing good things without ever giving any of "the money" back?

If you tried to get the money back from all those families that got rich during the Marcos Sr. years, it would empty out the ruling class of the country in a heartbeat. 

[hk blues]

4 hours ago, scott h said:

If you tried to get the money back from all those families that got rich during the Marcos Sr. years, it would empty out the ruling class of the country in a heartbeat. 

Right.

And, how about asking the families who profited from slavery to give back their wealth while we're at it.  On both sides of the Atlantic,  of course. 

The closest we've (UK) got to that is knocking down a few statues and renaming some streets! 

Those who can enforce such measured are very often part of the problem and thus will never be part of the solution. As pointed out above.

 

[Possum]

5 hours ago, Mike J said:

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Makes sense. So this should be better.

A senior Philippine police officer who played a central role in ex-President Rodrigo Duterte’s bloody drug war, during congressional testimony on Wednesday, accused the national police of corruption and said several high-ranking officers were protecting major drug cartels. 

Lt. Col. Jovie Espenido alleged that both Ronald dela Rosa, his former boss as the national police chief and now a senator, and Duterte had ordered him to kill suspected drug figures as part of the administration’s war on illegal drugs.

“From my experience, I can say that the PNP [Philippine National Police] is the biggest crime group in the country,” Espenido told a House of Representatives’ panel conducting a probe into the drug war.

https://www.benarnews.org/english/news/philippine/in-testimony-senior-philippine-police-officer-calls-national-force-biggest-crime-group-08282024141559.html

Also

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine National Police (PNP) is the most corrupt institution in the country, according to the latest Global Corruption Barometer of the anti-corruption watchdog Transparency International.

The survey showed that 69 percent of surveyed Filipinos believed police personnel were corrupt, 64 percent believed public officials and civil servants were affected by corruption, while 58 percent had the same view on political parties.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/07/11/964084/pnp-most-corrupt-agency-survey

[fillipino_wannabe]

7 hours ago, craftbeerlover said:

you are right, and then there is that.   That was his father and not him, but it absolutely should not be overlooked. 

It was him who didn't want to pay the estate tax, he could of paid it last year when there was a tax amnesty but he fired the BIR chief when she said she'd have to enforce the supreme court decision instead.

[OnMyWay]

On 9/14/2024 at 12:52 PM, craftbeerlover said:

without getting too deep into the politics here, he is actually doing better than I expected.  "seems" like he may be trying to erase his families tarnished past. 

I tend to agree, and with all the other caveats that others added.  At least he lessened ties with China and strengthened ties with the U.S.

However, the lipstick has to go! 

Edited Sunday at 10:04 AM by OnMyWay

[craftbeerlover]

13 minutes ago, OnMyWay said:

I tend to agree, and will all the other caveats that others added.  At least he lessened ties with China and strengthened ties with the U.S.

However, the lipstick has to go! 

He strengthened ties with Japan, Australia, France, Germany, Vietnam, and South Korea.