Lee Posted September 26 Posted September 26 Quote WASHINGTON—China’s newest nuclear-powered attack submarine sank in the spring, a major setback for one of the country’s priority weapons programs, U.S. officials said. The episode, which Chinese authorities scrambled to cover up and hasn’t previously been disclosed, occurred at a shipyard near Wuhan in late May or early June. It comes as China has been pushing to expand its navy, including its fleet of nuclear-powered submarines. The Pentagon has cast China as its principal long-term “pacing challenge,” and U.S. officials say that Beijing has been using political and military pressure to try to coerce Taiwan, a separately governed island that Beijing claims as part of its territory. China says its goal in building a world-class military is to deter aggression and safeguard its overseas interests. A spokesman for the Chinese embassy didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. China’s fleet of warships is eclipsing the U.S. As tensions between the two global powers grow, the U.S. is looking to South Korea, one of its biggest allies in Asia, to help increase its battleship supply. Photo: HD Hyundai Heavy Industries The U.S. doesn’t know if the sub was carrying nuclear fuel at the time it sank, but experts outside the U.S. government said that was likely. Undersea technology has long been an area of U.S. advantage, but China has been pushing hard to narrow the gap. China has been moving to diversify the production of nuclear-powered submarines. Production has been centered in the northeastern city of Huludao, but China is now moving to manufacture nuclear-powered attack submarines at the Wuchang Shipyard near Wuhan. Beijing had 48 diesel-powered attack subs and six nuclear-powered attack subs at the end of 2022, according to a Pentagon report issued last year on China’s military power, That report said that China’s aim in developing new attack submarines, surface ships and naval aircraft is to counter efforts by the U.S. and its partners to come to Taiwan’s aid during a conflict and to achieve “maritime superiority” within the first island chain, a string of territory from the Japanese archipelago through Taiwan and the Philippines to the South China Sea. The Zhou-class vessel that sank is the first of a new class of Chinese nuclear-powered subs and features a distinctive X-shaped stern, which is designed to make the vessel more maneuverable. The sub was built by China State Shipbuilding Corp., a state-owned company, and was observed alongside a pier on the Yangtze River in late May when it was undergoing its final equipping before going to sea. After the sinking, large floating cranes arrived in early June to salvage the sub from the river bed, according to satellite photos of the site. A satellite image of Wuchang Shipyard on June 15. Photo: Planet Labs PBC “The sinking of a new nuclear sub that was produced at a new yard will slow China’s plans to grow its nuclear submarine fleet,” said Brent Sadler, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a Washington think tank, and a retired U.S. Navy nuclear submarine officer. “This is significant.” Neither the People’s Liberation Army, as the Chinese military is known, nor local authorities, have acknowledged the episode. “It’s not surprising that the PLA Navy would try to conceal the fact that their new first-in-class nuclear-powered attack submarine sank pierside,” said a senior U.S. defense official. “In addition to the obvious questions about training standards and equipment quality, the incident raises deeper questions about the PLA’s internal accountability and oversight of China’s defense industry, which has long been plagued by corruption.” The first public indication that something was amiss at the shipyard near Wuhan came in the summer when Thomas Shugart, a former U.S. submarine officer and an adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security, wrote a series of social-media posts noting the unusual activity of the floating cranes, which was captured by commercial satellite imagery. Shugart surmised that there might have been an incident that involved a new type of submarine, but he didn’t know at the time that it was nuclear-powered. “Can you imagine a U.S. nuclear submarine sinking in San Diego and the government hushes it up and doesn’t tell anybody about it? I mean, Holy Cow!” Shugart said in an interview this week with The Wall Street Journal. While the submarine was salvaged, it will likely take many months before it can be put to sea. “The whole boat would be full of water,” Shugart said. “You’d have to clean out all the electronics. The electric motors may need to be replaced. It would be a lot of work.” American officials haven’t detected any indication that Chinese officials have sampled the water or nearby environment for radiation. It is possible Chinese personnel were killed or injured when the sub sank, but U.S. officials say they don’t know if there were casualties. Shugart said that the risk of a nuclear leak was likely to be low as the sub hadn’t ventured out to sea and its reactors were probably not operating at a high power level. The U.S. has suffered similar setbacks, which proved costly. In 1969, the nuclear-powered USS Guitarro was moored at a shipyard in California when it sank following a series of mistakes by construction workers. It wasn’t officially commissioned until 32 months after its sinking.rminate them. ‘People are terrified.’ https://www.wsj.com/world/china/chinas-newest-nuclear-submarine-sank-setting-back-its-military-modernization-785b4d37?st=Ue9xdm&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettGC Posted September 27 Posted September 27 No indication if it was a submarine systems issue, crew mistake or something external such as a collision. So many factors either combined or individually that could have caused the incident. The submarine could have sunk due to a ballast control issue so no, the entire thing would not be full of water if that was the case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OnMyWay Posted September 27 Popular Post Posted September 27 1 hour ago, Lee said: While the submarine was salvaged, it will likely take many months before it can be put to sea. On backorder at Alibaba.... 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftbeerlover Posted September 27 Posted September 27 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimeve Posted September 27 Posted September 27 4 minutes ago, craftbeerlover said: China’s newest nuclear-powered attack submarine sank in the spring. You could say it 'sprung a leak' in the spring! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jack Peterson Posted September 27 Popular Post Posted September 27 9 minutes ago, jimeve said: China’s newest nuclear-powered attack submarine sank in the spring. You could say it 'sprung a leak' in the spring! 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Mike J Posted September 27 Forum Support Posted September 27 Subs are supposed to go underwater so not a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthdome Posted September 27 Posted September 27 3 hours ago, Mike J said: Subs are supposed to go underwater so not a problem. As long as you surface as many times as you sink. I had that sinking feeling once. But that is a story to tell with a cold one at the bar with Brett. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettGC Posted September 27 Posted September 27 (edited) 5 hours ago, earthdome said: I had that sinking feeling once. But that is a story to tell with a cold one at the bar with Brett. Same, horrible feeling in deep water and you know all that submarine escape tank training (SETT) means jack sh%t at those depths. Definitely stories to be told with beers. We used to call the SETT the "WGM course" (Wives, Girlfriends and Mothers) because it made them feel better that it existed and we never explained the reality. Edited September 27 by BrettGC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronapart Posted September 27 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, BrettGC said: Same, horrible feeling in deep water and you know all that submarine escape tank training (SETT) means jack sh%t at those depths. Definitely stories to be told with beers. We used to call the SETT the "WGM course" (Wives, Girlfriends and Mothers) because it made them feel better that it existed and we never explained the reality. I remember escape training in Sub School. "Ho, ho, ho..." I don't know what words the rest of the world uses when trying to push air out of their lungs on ascent. I just remember thinking as an 18 year old how ridiculous this was and in fact in a real incident we were all going to die. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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