American Killed In Sanciangko/ Cebu City

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gapotwo
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...... nuff sed..

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...... nuff sed..
Link removed as the site is run by a nut case and its credibility is questionable.We will not direct traffic to that site.Boss Man
ok boss man. i was expecting to get banned for that post.but i couldnt resist. you and the mods on this forum are way too cool......tanks again EJ BARTON Edited by Kuya Lee
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According to this, the gf was 16 and in a gang, the “Tanduay Survivors Clan”. Doesn't address motive but the name says a lot.
Well that pretty much confirms my theory, just another dirtbag who probably could not satisfy a real woman, so he had to have an underage girlfriend. Sorry if the news is true, then I have no pity for adults who come here for sex with underage girls, when there are so many single girls of legal age available. Play with fire and there is a good chance you will get burned. Now in answer to Flyaway, only a fool would date a girl who even looks close to 18 without making sure she is 18 or over. The girl was still in high school, there had to be some tell tale signs, such as all schools here require uniforms. There is a law here making it illegal to just be alone in the presence of minors, so anyone who does not make sure of age, deserves what they get IMHO. The guy was 76, so what more needs to be said, just another pedo.
Two other members of the gang including the 16-year-old girlfriend of the victim and a certain Aldez “Boboy” Flores, 27 remain at large.
Doesn't even have to be because of an underage girl. This type of thing happens even when the girl of far over 18. A family honor thing and when family members get drunk-judgment goes out the window. Also in defense of some guys with under age girls-often times the underage girl has a doctored birth cert showing she is of legal age. Many underage girls will use a fake birth cert to be able to work in the bars-especially Angeles City. So really, it pays to pick one that just by looks is for sure of legal age :cheersty: . Gene... Edited by Married Kano
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It's disturbing to think about all the dirty thoughts I had of my high school female classmates when I was in high school..... not to mention elementary.... and how sexy they were..... but now to realize if I were to see the same aged girl from my present age, I would be forced to vomit or claw my eyes out.I don't know.... Western guys are really attracted to Asian girls, it appears to me, because of the Asian female's petite size and youthful appearance. It's already a pretty good deal, that you can be with a 30 year old Asian, who looks as young as a 20 year old Western girl. To actually be with an 18 year old Asian is quite extreme, because that's as young as you can look legally. An 18 or even 16 year old Western girl is often fully developed in the chest, the booty, and has yet to become gigantic from all that Boston Pizza, not to mention they're taller. What I'm saying is a high school Western girl can easily pass off as a twenty ~ mid-twenty year old woman, either tricking you, or allowing you to trick yourself. But to be with an 18 year old Asian girl is physically like being with a 12 year old Western girl, not that I know either. It's hard to believe a Western girl ISN'T 18, and it's harder to believe an Asian girl IS 18. That's what I'm bumbling on about. Only other thing, and this is more about poverty than legality, but our species are all about survival, and if a 70 year old is healthy enough to spread his seed, as he's biologically wired to do (though not intellectually handicapped by and forced into breaking the law), he'll look for the youngest option available. At the same time, girls are on the hunt for the guy best able to provide for them. So while that guy may not actually want a baby, he does want sex, and she wants security, so legal or not..... it's a trade off that happens.

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Yeah, I'm not going to jump the dirtbag thing either.Oh I think he did it and he was foolish and made a poor choice but some good people make very poor choices. Especially where women are concerned. In the case a girl.I'd say chances are good that she pursued him. I know I've been pursued by underage girls. Should he have jumped on his temptation? No. He clearly should not have.But who hasn't fallen victim to a very bad choice when a member of the opposite sex is concerned? It all seemed safe enough at first even though we might have known it wasn't the right thing to do. Come on, who hasn't been lured into something that is out of character for them? Not me, but then, I'm next to perfect. I know this because people keep saying "Lord Rusty!" Or "My God Rusty." hahaIt was stupid, he did a bad thing but I'm not gonna put him in the dirtbag class because I don't know. A lonely man and seductive female are a dangerous combination. Hopefully most of us wont be this stupid.

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The guy was not with a minor, He was with a 17 year old girl, A minor is under the age of 12, Being alone with a minor is illegal.He did not break any laws being with that girl unless he had sex with her, age of consent being 18.Am I right in thinking this ?
Hey Brock, below 18 is a minor. The age of consent in the Philippines is actually 12 (unless that law was changed). But you are correct that is illegal to be in the presence of anyone under 18 if you're over 18. There are some more stipulations in that law that have to do with 10 years their senor too. I don't recall all the particulars.Even though there is an old law making the age of consent 12 there are more laws that negate that.Yep, that's right, it is illegal to be in the presence of a minor and according to the a prosecutor that arrested someone on that charge a couple of years ago it applies "especially to foreigners." The girl he was with was 12 and it happened on Bantayan Island. Later another man, again on Bantayan Island was arrested with the same charge.I have not seen them prosecute anyone under this law. What I've seen is that it has been used to arrest and get someone away from a minor. Then the more substantial charges follow.I often say that Philippine law still has a hefty dose of common sense applied to it. The law has only been used to my knowledge where the unrelated adult was in custody of the child under 18. Otherwise, we couldn't go to freaking Jollibee's. I have my doubts that the law could stand up in court but I'm applying Western standards in my doubts and that could be fatal.
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Again, there is no indication that the old guy was having sex with this underage girl except the girl, who is accused of plotting his cold-blooded murder, saying he was her "boyfriend". Consider the source. The security guard says she was a "frequent visitor" to his apartment. At the least he was guilty of very poor judgement. Other then that, it's conjecture and supposition. Like someone else said, he ain't around to tell his side.

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Many a person has been convicted on circumstantial evidence, so when they say she was a frequent visitor, she was under 18, he was 76, one does not have to say much more. How many guys that age can resist a young girl in the privacy of his apartment when it is only him and her. Nature often takes over at that point and especially if one is drinking, as most foreigners here do, so I feel that it would be safe bet to say he was a perv and there would be little doubt in my mind about it. IMO he would be guilty until proven innocent, in the circumstances provided. No news story has all the facts or can even be totally believed, but what reason would the security guard have to lie.

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Many a person has been convicted on circumstantial evidence, so when they say she was a frequent visitor, she was under 18, he was 76, one does not have to say much more. How many guys that age can resist a young girl in the privacy of his apartment when it is only him and her. Nature often takes over at that point and especially if one is drinking, as most foreigners here do, so I feel that it would be safe bet to say he was a perv and there would be little doubt in my mind about it. IMO he would be guilty until proven innocent, in the circumstances provided. No news story has all the facts or can even be totally believed, but what reason would the security guard have to lie.
The old man is the victim, he hasn't been charged with anything. Whatever he did or didn't, he is way beyond the laws of man. The guard says she was a frequent visitor, did he or anyone else witness sex acts between the two? It's conjecture and innuendo, makes for titillating headlines though, great for selling newspaper ads.
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Many a person has been convicted on circumstantial evidence, so when they say she was a frequent visitor, she was under 18, he was 76, one does not have to say much more. How many guys that age can resist a young girl in the privacy of his apartment when it is only him and her. Nature often takes over at that point and especially if one is drinking, as most foreigners here do, so I feel that it would be safe bet to say he was a perv and there would be little doubt in my mind about it. IMO he would be guilty until proven innocent, in the circumstances provided. No news story has all the facts or can even be totally believed, but what reason would the security guard have to lie.
I really get a laugh out of the assumptions everyone makes,now I will add a few. The guy is 76,perhaps incapable of sex and it never enters his mind even if he tried,perhaps crippled from arthritis and blind to a point he cant look after him self.Why does everyone picture him as a fit athletic pervert? who is screwing young girls day and night when for all we know he could have be bed ridden and needed constant care.He may have dementia and not know what was going on around him.Anyone know him or seen him before his death?Hope when I drop dead at least one person with real inside info can say he was not a bad bloke for an Aussie. :o
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