Four Girls Rescued From Australian

[tom_shor]

There is a such thing as Stockholm syndrome where longtime captives/hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors; sometimes to the point of defending them. That in no way means they were not held captive, it just means that they had already adjusted to their new life and gotten used to it. People will often fall into a routine and slowly accept what at first was horrible, and then becomes acceptable, and then when treated nicely, then becomes the norm, but that does not mean that the kidnapper did the people a favor when he kidnapped them, or held them against their will. Humans seem to have the ability to forget bad things. I am not saying that is what happened in the cases above, yet it might explain why many seem to be reluctant to be rescued.

When they rescue these girls they lock them up. I'd run too.

[Dave Hounddriver]

When they rescue these girls they lock them up. I'd run too.

Or they get raped by the authorities who rescued them. Just heard about that by word of mouth so I don't have a link.

[Candyman]

When they rescue these girls they lock them up. I'd run too.

Or they get raped by the authorities who rescued them. Just heard about that by word of mouth so I don't have a link.

Here is that story here Dave.CIDG OFFICER RAPES "RESCUED" BAR GIRL CIDG officer rapes 'rescued' raid victim Saturday, July 16 A woman who was 'rescued' in the recent bar raids under the excuse of 'human trafficking' was freed from jail after being forced to have sex by none other than one of the CIDG officers who 'rescued' her in the raid.Around 100 staff, including GRO's, managers, waitresses and even 4 tourists were arrested in raids on Golden Nile, Blue Nile, Blue Nile executive, and Cambodia bar in what seems to be a targeted action against the group's owner, Richard Agnew.The raids were rather unsuccessful as most of the women resisted and escaped arrest by the police officers whilst cursing and screaming at them. The staff who were rescued completely against their will were rounded up and jammed into one bus whilst being humiliated on TV.As the bus was leaving the premises, one of the ladies pulled the emergency handle with the help of a journalist and another unidentified person who pitied them, triggering the doors to open which allowed most of the ladies to escape the bus, thus further angering the police officers.4 foreign tourists, including a major potential investor, were unlawfully arrested for no reason and without any warrant of arrest, a serious police offense for which there has been no consequences. The 4 tourists were released within 24 hours, but not before they were threatened to be locked up indefinitely unless they each paid a P50,000 bribe to CIDG police officers.The bars were allowed to reopen as there was no evidence of human trafficking found. Ironically enough, however, various 'rescued' ladies were still locked up against their will for an unknown period of time. One of these ladies was singled out by at least one of the CIDG officers and forced her to have sex with him in exchange for her freedom. This was done at a nearby motel.It is clear that these raids, which in no way helps in addressing human trafficking is clearly politically motivated. And whilst doing so, the police officers demonstrate what human trafficking is, through their own hypocritical actions. SOURCE: Removed by Bossman as it was not original content from a paper or news site but rather just a copy with no link to the source or true writer.

[Call me bubba]

i like to give EQUAL ACCESS to Rommel Alfonso , he too is accused of a crime against a girl or having a "sex slave" but he is not a foreigner but a citizen here in the RP.. I bet his "crime" will net only small amount of newspaper, tv time compared to the 78 yo Australian http://philnews.com/..._news_0720a.htm

I noticed for several days on philstar news, that it had posted as a "important" article about the Australian manbut NOTHING else about ROMMEL ALFONSO,does this show a "bias" towards foreigners who commit a crime thats similar to the actions of Rommel Alfonso? I bring this up,as the "news"only seems to show "non natives" commit such acts while the "native born" rarely commits these offenses.

[Mr Lee]

Update on this story. So is he guilty? It is his word against 4 minors, so I am guessing he does not stand much of a chance of beating this rap, even if he is.Three cases filed vs. Aussie accused of keeping minorsCEBU, Philippines - Despite his denial, Naga City prosecutor Napoleon Alburo found probable cause to charge an Australian accused with keeping minors as sex slaves for three cases before the Regional Trial Court. In the resolution penned by Alburo he found sufficient evidence to elevate the cases for qualified human trafficking, seven counts of violation of Section 5(b) of Article III of Republic Act 7610 or those who commit the act of sexual intercourse or lascivious conduct with a child below 12 year-old, and violation of Section 10(b) Article VI of RA 7610 or person who shall keep a minor below 12 year-old in any public or private place.Alburo recommended no bail for qualified human trafficking and P200,000 bail for each count of the other two violations.He said the denial of the Australian he had been harboring minor girls for prostitution and sexual abuse cannot give credit to the declarations and admission of four rescued minor girls.

[MikeB]

"He said the denial of the Australian he had been harboring minor girls for prostitution and sexual abuse cannot give credit to the declarations and admission of four rescued minor girls." Can someone translate this sentence to English?

[Dave Hounddriver]

It means 4 underage filipinas have more credibility than one mature foreigner. Like the witnesses for the Berger accusation. Guilty or not I sure get concerned about the slant that the newpapers portray. There may come a day when the locals form a lynch mob because they believe everything they read in the papers.

[softail]

An I'm going to say it again.....never.....ever.....be alone with kids!!! You are at there mercy. Doug

[Markham]

New SystemTrial by ForumPlease register your interest here .......

or acts in the performance of a social, moral or legal duty.

There you go,social and moral could be the real story here,like Roy giving out gifts or Bruce doing his bit.So LEE,what he did has not gone to court yet but you have voted guilty. The locals are no better but just get away with it more except for a few cases we read recently so IMO it makes the Filipinos look just as bad as its really common all over the world except the parents in the Philippines turn a blind eye when a few peso comes there way as it says in the story,of course reading between the lines.

You know Tom, I do wonder if Lee includes former Senior Superintendent Erson Digal and Senior Superintendent Patrocinio Comendador amongst his drinking buddies when he's over here. Both Superintendents are, or were, convinced of the guilt of those they had charged with the offences of kidnap with homicide of Ellah Joy Pique. From his comments, Lee - himself a former NY cop - would seem to agree with them - at least as far as Griffiths and Santos are concerned. To an extent, I can understand Lee's point of view. He has had to deal with too many low-lifes and seen too much crime that his reasoning has become slanted and tends towards the presumption of guilt. With regard to this case - of the Australian - he may, as you say, be completely innocent. But there is an possible interconnect between this case and that of Ellah Pique that I believe should be investigated. Mark

[Mr Lee]

It is easy to pick on me based on what Tom wrote without putting in what I actually wrote. I wrote that "Maybe he is 78 and cannot get it up, maybe he is just a do gooder and was only trying to help those poor girls, maybe he is totally innocent but just happen to be in a house which is near the house that was alleged to be used in the killing of that unfortunate young girl, but no matter what the situation is, I believe that he is guilty of having minors in his presence as per REPUBLIC ACT NO. 7610" and that is my right, just as it is others right to feel someone is innocent, yet in follow up news stories he conceded that he has had those kids living with him, so if that is true, then he has in fact broken the above republic act and then it is up to the courts to either find him guilty and penalize him, or find him innocent (I doubt that will ever happen) and let him go, yet if he was living with those kids as supposedly stated by him and others, then he is guilty of breaking that law, whether found guilty or not. I have to wonder why Mark feels that he should be investigated since the only connection seems to be that he lives so close to the Santos home, since Mark seems to think that Griffiths and Santos had nothing to do with the killing of Ellah Joy, so if not guilty of that crime, what would the close proximity of where this fellow lived to the Santos home have to do with the death of Ellah Joy? :hystery: Could it now be that Mark is suggesting this fellow could be guilty of killing Ellah Joy with no information even written to suggest a connection except where he lived? Could it be that the person who killed Ellah Joy was one who procured children for this fellow and something went terribly wrong? :hystery: I guess we may never know since there are so many possible scenarios. Maybe Mark can expand on what possible interconnect he thinks there seems to be?

Edited August 25, 2011 by Kuya Lee
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